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Further rumours point to Magnussen replacing Maldonado

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In the round-up: Further reports claim Pastor Maldonado is about to lose his place at Renault to Kevin Magnussen, as was first reported two weeks ago.

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  • 88 comments on “Further rumours point to Magnussen replacing Maldonado”

    1. Very good news!
      Top driver. One of my favorites!

      1. Mag had his chance, he’ll be a privileged boy to get another shot. The hat can’t be official as that f1logo design is post 98, maybe inaccuracy is less relevant than counterfeit.

          1. @beejis60 You are correct Duke’s tapes do present this logo as early as for the 96 review, I still wonder though if the tape is period and if the logo was official.

        1. The hat can’t be official as that f1logo design is post 98

          So what is this then? Time travel?

      2. Very bad news about Kevin (down to totally selfish reasons on my part) Living in Denmark the hype is quite painful to witness, especially from many in the Danish press who know nothing about F1… :-(

        1. I know what you’re talking about. It’s the same reason why I wish that Verstappen hadn’t been Dutch. Great racing driver, a future champ.. But Dutch media prioritises the kid above the sport itself. As a F1 fan, that bothers me.

          1. To be fair, its not only the Dutch media whos quilty of that though…

        2. As an American, I’m glad to not have that problem :) I think we learned our lesson with Scott Speed and Michael Andretti!

          1. @tim-m How is it with Rossi in the media/press?

            1. @huncosi In the broader public, fairly nonexistent. Most racing besides NASCAR isn’t capturing the public’s attention, at least where I’ve been living and traveling. I haven’t been to Austin or Indianapolis, though.

    2. I never take any rumor seriously until it’s in Autosport. Next week’s Renault event will be very interesting…

      1. But the first link is from Autosport, isn’t it?

        1. Yes, but the rumours started a couple of weeks ago, hearing/reading it from Autosport gives it a lot more credibility

    3. OmarRoncal - Go Seb!!! (@)
      29th January 2016, 0:14

      About that cap, I wonder how many 2008 Ferrari caps with “Massa World Champion” must have been destroyed. On the other hand, when Vettel and Hamilton started to build their points advantage in 2011, 2013 and 2015 (2014 had that double-points farce), I guess thir teams had the caps and t-shirts already printed long before!!

      1. @omarr-pepper
        At least the V3ttel shirts didn’t have to be destroyed!

      2. The following is probably heavily influenced by my location, but: I´m not really sure how much merchandise is still sold overall… It´s years since I saw anyone with an wearable F1-merch outside of a motorsport-event, and most of those were still just old Schumi-caps and jackets from the 90ies. Whereas middle of the 90ies, there was F1-merch and people wearing it everywhere.
        I do expect wearable F1-merch to still sell well in Japan, but apart from that, I´m not so sure…

        1. OmarRoncal - Go Seb!!! (@)
          29th January 2016, 1:41

          @crammond even worse here. You can only find old fakey merchandise resembling 2000-2002 season!!!: McL-Mercedes with Mika’s name, BMW-Wiliams t-shirts and the always-popular Schum’s red caps and t-shirts. But I had to order my 2015 Ferrari t-shirt from the U.S as it was impossible to buy or order at the local Puma stores, which surprises me, cause they don’t even have Alonso’s Ferrari t-shirts from any year.

      3. @omarr-pepper You mean sent to africa…

      4. Very few unless they printed a load in the last few laps of the championship! Massa hadn’t led since round 8..

    4. Re: Keith’s Tweet

      It makes sense for Ferrari hold their ground as manufacturer of pure sports cars/cruising cars rather than water down their offering with a possible SUV or smaller variants. They have Alfa to fit that purpose while leaving Ferraris legacy untouched. They are already putting a Ferrari V6 in the new Alfa four door Guilia? (Correct me if I’m wrong).

      The decision though gives (from my point of view) the insight that Ferrari are beginning to settle, stop the knee jerk approach to business & could quite possibly mean they’re taking a strategic and long term approach to business in general, all good signs for Seb et al. Lungo Ferrari dal vivo.

      1. @ross-willow

        Lungo Ferrari dal vivo.

        What does this mean, I’m asking because it makes no sense in italian. :) Was it a google translate of “Long live Ferrari”? In italian it should translate “Lunga vita a Ferrari”

        1. Haha, well if Google translate can’t even do that properly, what’s the point! Apologies for the murdering of the language!

      2. @ross-willow, the upcoming Alfa Romeo Giulia will have a high performance version with a V6 engine, but the indication is that the engine will be an Alfa unit that is then tuned by Ferrari.

        As for the business approach, Marchionne has been accused of making short term decisions instead of taking a more considered long term approach. The decision to float Ferrari on the stock exchange, for example, has only one function – to provide the Fiat Chrysler group with a short term cash injection – because, from a fiscal point of view, the decision is a poor one from Fiat’s long term perspective (Ferrari was providing a small cross subsidy to Fiat, in much the same way that Porsche is being used to cross subsidise the VW Group).

      3. Not that I like it, but Porsche makes a pile of money on SUV. Even if they are based on VW and Audi parts, people buy them.

        You also have to consider the US is a giant market for Ferrari and Porsche, and wagons have regulatory and cultural hurdles.

    5. As I’ve said on here before, Maldonado is just an unfortunate symptom of the financial structure of Formula 1. What we have in Maldonado is a driver who has climbed into an F1 car every other week for the past 5 years, knowing that whatever he does, he’ll be driving again at the next race. Which is why he often does whatever he does. So in that sense, I was quite looking forward to see what he could do in 2016, with him knowing he had to actually perform to keep his seat.

      Having said that though, Magnussen is almost certainly a better option for Renault, and he deserves it. He would’ve kept his seat if Alonso hadn’t fallen out with Ferrari when he did, then he gave up an IndyCar opportunity so he could substitute for Alonso (only to break down before the start of his only race) and then get he got dumped by McLaren on his birthday. It’s been a rough 12 months for Kevin and I’d be delighted to see something go his way for once.

      1. COTD for me.

        I’d not considered that “sod it, I’m here next weekend whatever I do” mentality of Maldonado.

        I hope KMag gets a second chance at an F1 race seat. The question is, assuming Maldonado’s money does turn up even when Renault have dropped him, where does he end up? Manor?

        1. If by ‘he’ you meant Maldonado then I hope he ends up in Nascar. Then the ‘has Maldonado crashed today’ website will keep going.

        2. If this story in the Washington Post is correct then Venezuela doesn’t have any money to pay the bills.

          The only question now is whether Venezuela’s government or economy will completely collapse first.

          The key word there is “completely.” Both are well into their death throes. Indeed, Venezuela’s ruling party just lost congressional elections that gave the opposition a veto-proof majority, and it’s hard to see that getting any better for them any time soon — or ever.

          1. @w-k Very insightful read, thanks for sharing.

    6. F1 might get even more boring next week. As much as I like the idea of Magnussen back in F1, I’ll be sad to see the Maldonado jokes on twitter during every GP.

      1. Yeah, this is pretty sad. But I hope that Pastor at least will be able to get Manor’s seat. Maybe Haryanto/Maldonado?

      2. Apex Assassin
        29th January 2016, 15:59

        They’ll be replaced with Palmer and Goofierrez jokes, no worries on that front.

    7. Bernie is annoyed that he has lost absolute power over F1 but the genie is out of the bottle and there is no way to get it back in. With the advances in aerodynamic design and engine technologies it is no longer possible to restrict a development series to a safe (for humans) speed other than to reduce the size of the engine to such a degree that they would need to reduce aerodynamic drag until such time as they managed at great expense to develop more and more power from every cc of displacement, the alternative is bigger simpler engines limited to a designated hp just like formula 5000, cheap, fast but technically boring and not F1. F1 needs the manufacturers and their huge R&D budgets more than the manufacturers need F1.

      1. Apex Assassin
        29th January 2016, 16:00

        These engines are expensive and technically boring and regulated and stifled to death.

        1. Expensive? yes, regulated to death ? yes, technically boring ? youve got to be kidding ! @apexassassin.

    8. Oh man, if Magnussen gets the seat it might bring a tear to my eye. There might yet be justice in this world.

      1. Justice, for what? What has Magnussen ever shown? As long as Robin Frijns is still not driving F1, there won’t be any justice.

    9. Dang there goes the excitement on seeing what Crash Donaldo had in store for us in 2016.

      Numbs you somewhat to miss the piece of stupidity and stewards will be sorely missing him not to say the number of hits on will go down.

      I am cringing with disappointment. Boo Hoo.

      1. I’m sure he’ll end up in WEC or IndyCar, with a slightly smaller budget.

    10. Just weighing up the pros and cons of Maldonado being replaced by Magnussen at Renault –

      1) More deserving driver on the grid. One who I consider needs another season to prove himself in the sport
      2) Renault will see more finishes this season, fewer Q1 exits, get more track time in moving machinery
      3) Renault mechanics will be spending less time fixing cars, so they will not be as burnt out in a potential 21 race season. Renault should save a few million dollars in carrying less spare parts every race weekend.
      4) Stewards can relax and sip on some tea during races
      5) Marshals on track will feel safer. So will other drivers, spectators, safety car drivers, pit crews, TV audiences, etc.
      6) PDVSA’s brand image will improve gradually

      1) There will be fewer safety car periods resulting in less ‘luck’ factor in races.
      2) Lesser humour in the F1 paddock, and interviewers will find chuckles elsewhere. F1 stewards might need to find someone new to pick on as well
      3) Maldonado’s teammate will be upset, as he might have to race to beat his teammate.
      4) As Sridhar mentioned, might go out of business UNLESS he manages to buy his way in to another series

      1. @todfod He should be really ashamed if there can be found any statistical evidence that Maldonado his presence in F1 raised the amount of SC/yellow flags over a season. Like there are now stewards burning their yellow flags everywhere.

      2. Your comment reminded me of this

        They might be out of business too ;)

        1. Doubt it. They should be around for a while ;)

    11. Don’t worry just yet at the there being less excitement without Pastor…

      Manor haven’t announced their drivers yet!!!

      1. Problem is that the Manor’s can’t mix it up with other racers due to their lack of pace. In 2016 though, we could have some good battles at the back of the pack between the Manors, Haas and Mclarens.

      2. And it isn’t as if Sauber haven’t signed three drivers before…

    12. Bernie Ecclestone warns teams on engines

      The problem with engines is more money often equates to better performance. Yes, F1 teams have to pay more for the new hybrid package, but the question is if a supposedly cheaper engine format was chosen, e.g. V8, would the teams with less money be able to perform better than Mercedes and Ferrari? I’m sorry, but if a financially constrained team was able to beat a team like Mercedes or Ferrari then it would be just a short term measure, in the long term the teams with more money would end up copying and then outspending the financially constrained team.
      If you take the 2009 season as an example, Brawn GP won 6 of the first 7 races, they got 11 podiums out of the first 8 races, but they were very financially constrained, and so they weren’t able to spend as much as their competitors, so the second half of that season wasn’t as successful as the first half. They got 4 of the remaining 9 races. Other teams with better financial resources were able to catch them.

      1. … They got 4 podiums out of the remaining 9 races…

      2. I don’t even think these engines are that expensive @drycrust. It’s development they’re spending the money on, and as you say that would just kick off all over again with a new spec of engine. It’s all about Red Bull and how they promote F1 for Bernie, and how he can’t bear for them to be left out of the top tier, depending on another team for an engine.

      3. @drycrust, spot on, we know how to make these cars go 300mph if we want to, any new format that doesn’t have a restriction on either fuel or hp will end up being either too powerful or too expensive, Bernie wants a single 1000 hp engine or 3-4 virtually identical 1000 hp engines that are relatively cheap and very noisy for the show, with a 1000 hp the aerodynamics can have huge drag and still be winners, Formula Winglet will replace F1.

        1. @hohum Unfortunately “cheap” just doesn’t cut the mustard. Cheap and Formula 1 are mutually exclusive. If there was a $50,000 engine that any team could build that was also good enough for F1, then teams would add bits to it to make it better, so then it’d be a $100,000 engine, and then, before long, they’d have upgraded it again so it was a $200,000 engine, and then, a few upgrades later, it’d be a $500,000 engine. Then some teams would see their own engine supplier was sort of lost or not upgrading fast enough, or the upgrades were downgrades, or whatever, so they’d be looking around and buying from another team, so they’d be customer teams, and then the manufacturing team would want the customer teams to contribute to the cost of research to make the “cheap engine” more powerful. Before you know it, we’d end up with the current situation. Every way you turn you end up with expensive engines and expensive research to build better engines and customer teams being asked to contribute to the cost of the research.
          If you want to win then you have to have the best engine, you cannot win with a cheap engine, especially if your competitors have expensive engines.

          1. @drycrust, maybe I should have been more explicit, we are both making the same point here.

        2. I know that this is most likely hyperbole, but until F1 cars become closed-wheel and/or get 3000bhp engines, 300mph couldn’t happen.

          1. @matt90, I guess you did the math so I’m not going to argue, but what sort of Hp do you think a twin turbo 3.5 L V10 would put out at 20,000 rpm ?

            1. @hohum I don’t know, but I image it would be far too highly stressed to last a single race.

              For reference, BAR used their 2005 BAR 007 with a 900+bhp V10 to average 247mph when specially adapted for a speed record attempt. Consider that much more streamlined hypercars with greater power ‘only’ get to around 270mph.


          2. @matt90 I wonder how powerful a modern car could get under the old Grand Prix formula – 750 kg maximum car weight, minus fuel, oil and driver. In 1938, Caracciola set the still standing road speed record of 268 mph, on the Autobahn. That’s faster than Button at Bonneville 10 years ago! Surely 300 mph could be cracked, with 80 years worth of F1 development?